Borrowed Wisdom 


Listen to Borrowed Wisdom with Robert Barry Fleming

Theatre in the 21st-century is an inherently interdisciplinary craft and Robert Barry Fleming, Executive Artistic Director at Actors Theatre of Louisville, finds inspiration everywhere. Each week, Robert talks with an unrivaled expert, full of ideas, strategies and challenges around their work then investigates that which is consonant and connected to how they navigate their discipline and their world no matter what the field. It’s a podcast about that which we can learn from one another when such learning is approached with a spirit of openness and then becomes ingested as the borrowed wisdom of one’s treasure trove of knowing and doing.

"Disruption, Resistance, and Shakespeare, ft Eric Ting (Cal Shakes)"

Robert and Eric share their perspectives on the narratives surrounding BIPOC leadership, the roles of allies versus accomplices, and disrupting dominant culture practices in arts organizations.

Eric Ting is an Obie Award-winning director, Artistic Director of California Shakespeare Theater. He previously served as Long Wharf Theatre Associate Artistic Director. Recent credits include the world premiere of Sam Hunter’s Lewiston (Long Wharf Theatre), To Kill a Mockingbird (Cincinnati Playhouse), The World of Extreme Happiness (Manhattan Theatre Club / Goodman), Appropriate (Mark Taper Forum), Kimber Lee’s Brownsville Song (LWT / Philadelphia Theatre Co), A Great Wilderness (Williamstown), Nora Chipaumire’s Miriam (BAM Next Wave), Jackie Sibblies Drury’s We Are Proud to Present a Presentation (world premiere, Soho Rep / Victory Gardens) and Rising Son (world premiere, Singapore Rep). Ting is a founding member of the artists’ collective INTELLIGENT BEASTS. Upcoming: Othello (Cal Shakes), Octavia E. Butler’s Parable of the Sower with Toshi Reagon (National Tour) and Branden Jacobs-Jenkins’ An Octoroon (Berkeley Rep). He is a recipient of a TCG New Generations fellowship, a Jerome & Roslyn Milstein Meyer Career Development Prize, a NEFA National Theatre Project grant, and (with Meiyin Wang) a MAP Fund Award. Additionally, he has served on grant panels including the Doris Duke Charitable Trust, Jerome and McKnight Foundations, NEA, TCG, PONY, Creative Work Fund and Alpert Awards.

📚 References:

California Shakespeare Theater
The Third Wave by Alvin Toffler (1980)
The People’s Institute for Survival & Beyond
Macbeth, 1969, directed & adapted by Eric Ting (Long Wharf Theatre, 2012)
Narrative and Dramatic Sources of Shakespeare by Geoffrey Bullough (1975)

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Produced by Elizabeth Greenfield
Audio Engineer: Paul Doyle
Cover art by Mary Kate Grimes
Original music by Omega Latham III
Opening song written & performed by Erica Denise

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Robert Barry Fleming

Executive Artistic Director and host of Borrowed Wisdom

Robert Barry Fleming served as Associate Artistic Director at Cleveland Play House from 2016–2019. Prior to Cleveland Play House, he served as the Director of Artistic Programming at Arena Stage.

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