Borrowed Wisdom 


Listen to Borrowed Wisdom with Robert Barry Fleming

Theatre in the 21st century is an inherently interdisciplinary craft, and Robert Barry Fleming, Executive Artistic Director at Actors Theatre of Louisville, finds inspiration everywhere. Each week, Robert talks with an unrivaled expert, full of ideas, strategies and challenges around their work, then investigates that which is consonant and connected to how they navigate their discipline and their world—no matter what the field. It’s a podcast about what we can learn from one another when such learning is approached with a spirit of openness.

"Recognition and reconciliation, ft Kellie Watson"

Robert and Kellie dive into the local impact of the Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron's announcement of the grand jury decision in the murder of Breonna Taylor. Kellie shares her personal and professional perspectives on civil service, violence, and community activism.

Kellie R. Watson was the first Chief Equity Officer for Louisville Metro Government, providing strategic, visionary planning and oversight to advance racial equity in Louisville Metro Government and she oversees the Department of Human Resources and the Human Relations Commission. Prior to this, she was the General Counsel/Legislative Liaison to Mayor Fischer. She was also the Director of the Human Resources Department/Labor Relations within the Fischer administration. Kellie has served as the Director for Office of Human Resource Management/Acting Director of the Office of Civil Rights and Small Business for the Kentucky Transportation Cabinet. Kellie’s early years in City of Louisville, were as the Director of the Louisville Metro Human Relations Commission for several years, as the Director of the Office of Affirmative Action. Kellie is a member of the Kentucky and Louisville Bar Associations; Zeta Phi Beta Sorority, Inc. serving as the Executive Board Chair of Beta Alpha Xi Zeta Chapter; Legislative Liaison for Derby City Chapter of Jack and Jill Inc.

📚 References:

“The 1619 Project”
The History of White People by Nell Irvin Painter (2010)
Caste: The Origins of Our Discontents by Isabel Wilkerson (2020)

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Produced by Elizabeth Greenfield
Audio Engineer and Editor: Paul Doyle
Cover art by Mary Kate Grimes
Original music by Omega Latham III
Opening song written & performed by Erica Denise

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Robert Barry Fleming

Executive Artistic Director and host of Borrowed Wisdom

Robert Barry Fleming served as Associate Artistic Director at Cleveland Play House from 2016–2019. Prior to Cleveland Play House, he served as the Director of Artistic Programming at Arena Stage.

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